Has anyone got a tubing bender?

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Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:07 am

I have a mercury outboard stand and someone replaced one of the legs with an aluminum leg which was damaged from too much weight I have one good leg that can be used as a template

I would like to donate the stand to the Fingerlakeskid 2019 Meet & Greet and need one leg fabbed up.
Has anyone got a manual tubing bender for 3/4 OD " round steel?   even a manual bender will work,  no compound work,  just need 3 easy bends , we can pay for material and labor,  I just live so far out in the sticks this isnt an easy task for me


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Re: Has one got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:59 pm

I have a bender but cant remember what size and I tried bending with it but I suck at it. I have a brother-in-law that is an electrician that probably could bend it much better if I had the dimensions.
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Re: Has one got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:22 pm

excellent  [wrench.gif]    Brandon I will make a template and mail it to you if you would send me your address please

thanks
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:38 pm

Wait a second, that is the smaller stand right, I have one I can copy.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:48 pm

yes the smaller stand as in the pic above....I will get you dimensions to double check icon_thumbup.gif

thanks Brandon and choose a Tshirt just for trying
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:43 pm

I got 25.25 at the widest point at the bottom and 28.5 from the ground straight up to the top of the tube parallel to the ground.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:18 am

same dimensions  [wrench.gif]   3/4 OD tubing

thanks Brandon and choose a Tshirt just for trying and send me your size, color  and mailing address
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:16 am

Yeah I measured 3/4 as well. I will get some tubing. My bender is 1/2" so I will take it to my brother in law, he has the right size.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby kirkp » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:13 am

I'll be interested to see how this progresses. I have a similar stand although it doesn't have the mercury name on the front.  :-(  The legs on mine are worn out from sliding on concrete so I was looking at bending some new ones. The original legs measure .761" OD. I was hopeful that 1/2" EMT would work but it has a .706" OD which could be made to work but would be a bit sloppy. Finding 3/4" galvanized tubing may be a little difficult although not impossible.

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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:23 am

3/4 in. x 10 ft. Galvanized Steel Pipe       $ 23 32

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   Rated at maximum 300 PSI at 350 degrees F
   Backed by a 1-year limited manufacturer warranty

https://www.homedepot.com/p/3-4-in-x-10 ... /100534625

Brandon let me know and I can paypal you the cash or have it shipped to you if it is more convenient
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:28 am

kirkp wrote:I'll be interested to see how this progresses. I have a similar stand although it doesn't have the mercury name on the front.  :-(  The legs on mine are worn out from sliding on concrete so I was looking at bending some new ones. The original legs measure .761" OD. I was hopeful that 1/2" EMT would work but it has a .706" OD which could be made to work but would be a bit sloppy. Finding 3/4" galvanized tubing may be a little difficult although not impossible.

Kirk


1/2 aluminum was used in the replacement leg that caved under the weight of a motor and it is a sloppy fit,
you could sleeve the mounting plate but maybe its better to just use the HomeDepot galvy tube

I realize this is over priced but one of these just sold on ebay for $275 and $46 shipping so dont mess it up icon_thumbup.gif

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mercur ... _cvip=true

and here is another starting listed price at $275
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mercur ... 0011.m1850
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:31 am

I can almost see lowes from my house and I am across the street from a plumbing store, no need to ship.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby kirkp » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:49 am

That was my thought Michael. It looks like the set screw in the plate would tighten down enough but as you said a shim would be easy to add.
Good luck with your project.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:53 am

Ha, the one for 275 is on my way to work, no shipping for me. :arrow:
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:56 am

Brandon any chance are you going to Stans 2019 Meet & Greet ?
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:04 am

I am planning on going.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:29 am

outboard315 wrote:I am planning on going.

terrific then you could take the leg with you and I will mail the other parts to Stan...I think its going to be raffled maybe you will win it  [fingerscrossed.gif]
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 3:28 pm

Michael the pipe you posted above is .87" od. The closest stuff is 1/2" EMT. Worse case I would send the legs from my stand and make the new ones for my stand and any shims.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Sun Feb 17, 2019 4:16 pm

outboard315 wrote:Michael the pipe you posted above is .87" od. The closest stuff is 1/2" EMT. Worse case I would send the legs from my stand and make the new ones for my stand and any shims.


rather than 1/2 and using shims it would be stronger to use the .87 and we can just grind/file the ends down to .72 to slide into the holes of the mounting plate.....one should also drill a hole in the end that gets the pinch bolt , so that that pinch bolt that holds it  in place actually goes thru the hole in the pipe and it WONT fall  out
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:23 pm

About that, that pipe id is only .75 which means it would never fit the stock hole in the stand before the pipe would be gone. The 1/2" stuff is .700 od and only .005-.010 off of wall thickness. The pinch bolt in my stand is a set screw so I would use a punch to make a dimple for the set screw to rest into.

Another thought, I could lay a couple of weld beads and grind to perfection of the smaller tube.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Sun Feb 17, 2019 5:45 pm

Brandon
sounds like welding a couple beads will be the easiest way out, finding a sleeve maybe just as difficult to find an OD & ID that will be compatible

space the 2 welding beads so that the set screw can rest between the welds

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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:34 pm

A sleeve can be a piece of the same tubing... Just split it and slightly bend it open to fit over the same stuff.  Could make a hole for the set screw so the sleeve covers top & bottom entirely for better support (would not want opening of slit to be at 12 o'clock or 6 o'clock on the tube).

By the way, I just aquired the exact same Vollrath engine stand with the "MERCURY" raised letter emblem on it in case you want a second opinion for tubing measurement...

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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:27 am

Tom Brockmeyer wrote:A sleeve can be a piece of the same tubing...


I was thinking the same thing and maybe welding it on the tube so it won't get lost.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Mon Feb 18, 2019 5:27 pm

sounds like a plan and Im sure your aware but just a reminder.....test weld to dial in  before you bend,  if the wall is that thin it  may want to burn thru easily

thanks again Brandon      [drinkingcheers.gif]
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:55 pm

It's rather sturdy but I'm not a fan of it not being the perfect material, I may just donate my legs and buy the right stuff later.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:56 am

regardless of the material.......NICE JOB Brandon  icon_thumbup.gif
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:34 pm

Update, I got 2 legs bent up but both have kinks from tweaking, the tubing I used was 1/2" electrical which is .75" od. So I am going to donate the legs from my stand.

So here is a good one correct size tubing is 20-25 bucks a length (8 bucks if I worked at my last job icon_crazy.gif ) and I'm bound to screw up at least once. I pull up craigslist and find an Evinrude stand for 35 bucks and proof it's in my car. Back at home I check and the legs are the same as my stand and the same as this one.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Michael » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:37 pm

sweet  [drinkingcheers.gif]
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Wed Apr 10, 2019 6:07 am

FYI, my recently acquired Mercury tube stand legs are not the same dimension as my four Johnson/Evinrude tube stand legs...
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby outboard315 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:25 pm

I used calipers on both my stand which looks like the stand Michael has and my recent acquired evinrude stand and they all measure .750 on the o.d. which is what Michael is getting too. I saw the picture of your stands Tom, I'm not sure how to explain what is going on.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:08 am

Sorry Brandon, I was not clear... My Mercury tube stand tubes are not the same "geometry" as the Johnson/Evinrude tube stands that I own (four of them).

The Mercury stand has a deeper stance and slightly taller height, meaning it is more difficult to tip over backwards and it's taller from ground to top of motor mount plate.
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Re: Has anyone got a tubing bender?

Postby Jeff Register » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:06 pm

Michael,
If I may try to help? Electrical conduit comes in a few sizes, all rated as 1/2",3/4", 1" & so on. All E conduit has the inside sizes for measurment. 1/2" conduit comes in 3 external sizes, Thinwall (EMT) electrical metal conduit, galvanised (IMC) intermediant metal conduit, galvanised (GRC) galvanized rigid conduit & can't forget PVC poly-vinyl conduit that comes in schedule 40 & 80, different wall thickness's & then schedule 40 & 80 sprinkler pipe for fire control in buildings,
All in 1/2" I.D.. Maybe one will work, but IMC kinks in the best benders. Maybe find a side winder, a electric bender that has shoes (bending radi) for up to 4" GRC.  Those bends don't look that hard to do except keeping the second bend at the same angle as the first as the handle from the bender gets in the way. I think they had a small sidewinder to keep the bends correct with each other. Oh almost forgot another P.V.C. coated G.R.C., different O.D. Used in toxic places like shit pumping stations. Yes experienced!!
Phone co. at one time had aluminum pipe in 1/2" & 3/4" also on schedule 40 & 80 again with different O.D.'s respectfully. Anyone have an electronic protractor to duplicate degrees of bend, I do if needed. Oh springback enters, the degrees lost after bending a given degree the material springs back a few degrees a few, all manufactrures have different springback. I have run many miles of conduit in my life & know you guys con do it icon_thumbup.gif  I know little to nothing in other conduits, sorry!
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