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Stand advice needed

Postby Wyo307 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:35 pm

Hello everyone I am in need of some advice on a Mercury engine stand that just popped up for sale in my home town (extremely rare for where I live, actually the only one I have ever seen within 300 miles). My question is will this small stand support my rat motor that weighs 70-80lbs? Also what would the a realistic approximate value on something like this be? From what I have seen Ebay skews prices on things now a days.I think his asking price is a little bit high. Thank you all for your help
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby dave bernard » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:43 pm

Yes it will hold most 2 cyl mercs.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby outboard315 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:00 am

I have a 1968 johnson 25 hp on mine which is the same stand but no name plate. It looks like that is 81 pounds. With no issues and no sign of weakness.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Michael » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:35 am

I have a 96lb yamato on one right now, I wouldnt want to work on it, but for display it will work at that weight
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Wyo307 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:04 pm

Thank you guys for the help. What is a good price for it?
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Michael » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:14 pm

one just sold on ebay for $275 but that was a fluke in my opinion.....$150   [twocents.gif]
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Wyo307 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:28 pm

Thank you for the reply Michael. That is about what I was thinking it was worth.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby shep72 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:59 pm

I bought a similar type of Evinrude stand for $40.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Michael » Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:18 pm

shep72 wrote:I bought a similar type of Evinrude stand for $40.

ya get what ya pay for   :lol:  :lol:

no...actually I have seen the trend on ebay, some Evinrudes do go for $40-50, the Mercs just seem to get more and have been rising the past couple years, the last one sold on ebay, I think was listed for $150 and had a few bidders, then 2 guys went to war over it and took it to $275  :shock:

I have one I'm going to list on ebay  next week to raise cash for next years  APBA sponsorship program and will list it for $150.
I also  have one I'm donating to Fingerlakekids Meet & Greet 2019 as a raffle prize,  so attends Stan's "JOMS" Party and have a chance at winning one

this guy must have just watched the last one go thru a bidding war for $275 and listed this Crusty one  a couple days later at that price but... buy it now
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Mercur ... 2592226598
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Kiekhaefer » Fri Feb 22, 2019 6:43 pm

I seem to remember that we had a brand new '70 Merc 500 on one of those display stands. They'd be about 150 lbs
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Kiekhaefer » Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:28 am

Kiekhaefer wrote:I seem to remember that we had a brand new '70 Merc 500 on one of those display stands. They'd be about 150 lbs


Or not. Apparently my older brothers don't recall it being on that stand.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby john bennig » Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:00 pm

The only difference in these generic stands is the nameplate.  A few years back someone was selling reproduction nameplates-I bought a Mercury one.
I have two of these stands, the other one has a Lauson nameplate on it.  The diecast heads were made by a local company.  If you look close on the back you should see the name Volrath Co.  In the 50's they made a number of diecast hardware pieces for boats.  I have a never used motor plate for the transom that will be going on my Dunphy.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby kirkp » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:27 pm

Anyone know who might have been selling the repop nameplates? I have a stand that needs some bling.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Sun Feb 24, 2019 2:40 pm

john bennig wrote:The only difference in these generic stands is the nameplate.  


The Mercury stand pictured at the top of this thread has a larger, heavier cast aluminum mounting board than the hundreds of OMC "tube stands" out there.  There is also a much larger, heavy duty OMC tube stand that is more rare, but still pretty common.  I own two of the large and four of the smaller Johnson/Evinrude stands and the Mercury stand I just bought two weeks ago is bigger than the small OMC's  I have posted three pictures showing three sizes of Vollrath tube stands.
I'm pretty sure OMC (and other off brands) sold the Vollrath tube stands with their brand name right thru the dealerships.  I do not think Mercury offered the Vollrath stands thru dealerships (unless the dealer bought them direct and sold them;  just not thru Kiekhaefer Mercury.)

The stands in the top picture, are 17-1/4" wide, 13-1/4" wide, and 10-1/4" wide measured at the widest (horizontal) point of the engine mounting area.

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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:34 pm

bump to show the pics I added to above post...
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby outboard315 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 11:51 pm

Tom what is the width of the cast part on each of them.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:45 am

outboard315 wrote:Tom what is the width of the cast part on each of them.


I'll dig them back out tomorrow and measure...  Also, I think the tubes are interchangeable between the small OMC and the Mercury.  However, my Mercury tubes "FEEL" heavier like maybe they have a thicker wall.  They might just be full of dirt.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Wyo307 » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:10 pm

Thank you all for the advice. I did end up buying this stand over the weekend for $100. Even at that price it was hard for me to pay that much when the last original mark 55 I bought I only paid $50 for. It is in good shape but dos have one small chipped missing from the cast piece and some light rust on the bottom of the tubes but nothing major. The tubes look good and straight with no bends or dings in them so they should clean up nicely.

Were these originally painted a dull aluminum color or were they just raw aluminum?
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby dave bernard » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:56 pm

the cast part was raw
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:51 pm

As requested above, the stands in the picture, are 17-1/4" wide, 13-1/4" wide, and 10-1/4" wide measured at the widest (horizontal) point of the engine mounting area.  Although they looked the same, the Mercury stand base tubes are a few inches bigger in width and depth than the small OMC stand.

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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby outboard315 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:18 am

Mine is the vollrath but no tag. So are all vollrath stands mercury stands.
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Re: Stand advice needed

Postby Tom Brockmeyer » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:53 am

outboard315 wrote:Mine is the vollrath but no tag. So are all vollrath stands mercury stands.


No... Vollrath made ALL the "tube stands", no matter what brand tag was on them.  Vollrath was a huge marine hardware manufacturer like Attwood, Wilcox-Crittendon, and others.
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